[aviator]

There are quite a few flying clubs in Pakistan. However, I have never really heard about a Private institute that offers a two years (A.A/A.S) or four years degree (B.A. or B.S) in the following disciplines:

- Aviation Management
- Aircraft Maintenance
- Technical Management
- Aerospace Engineering (hmm, may someone offers it in Pakistan??)
- Air Traffic Management
- Aeronautical Science / Systems Maintenance.
- etc, etc....

I would like to know if there is such institution that servers such interests. I know a few Pakistani scholars, who are in the US studying Aeronautical Engineering. But I would like to know if there are any other institutes (private) that offer such courses. Again, such a school could jump start our Aviation Industry (perhaps not in a few years but in a couple of decades). What do ya'all think?
FAISAL :)

[BBilal]

Assalam o Aliakum ,
There is a institute in Karachi just opposite to “white body hanger” name as Aviation technical services” duly approved by civil aviation Pakistan. They offer Aircraft Maintenance engineering course. (AME –LWTR).

[canadorian]

Any E:mai address or webb site :) l

[aviationcraft]

Hello,

I wana inform that there is no website of ''Aviation Tech Services''

ans its the Licence program of three years in Aerospace and Avionics.

If some body need any information , he may call to number of ATS-TI

021-45791926



aviationcraft.

[aviationcraft]

If Any body wants be be a Goof then joind the ATS training Institute.

I think We spoil our future right at the very first day we join ATS .

[mkamal]

I have been following this discussion with interest.

You guys will have to look at over all Pakistani as well as regional aviation industry. Pakistan untill recently only had PIA and PAF as users for aviation graduates and trainees. PAF has its own college of aeronautical engineering, which moved to Risalpur and it fulfill their need for Kamra and airforce both. PIA has been training its engineers in PAF as PIA scholars and then putting them through training in its own facilities. So the country was quite self sufficient in its aviation technology man power. SUPARCO on the other hand has inducted few aerospace engineers and now has an institute of its own in Pindi.

As far as the private airlines are concerned, they are basically relying on the PIA and PAF product for their consumption. Regional airlines mostly in Gulf, are getting PIA spill or they get UK /USA trained staff.

In short, the market size in Pakistan is so small that any private institution offering Aerospace, Aviation Management and similar other degrees is not viable. We will end up with a number of aviation enthusiasts with degrees and looking for a job. There are no industrial base to assimilate these young graduates. PAF CAE at one point did consider at an initial level, offering a maintenanace engineering equivalent degree but was later dropped. Similarly, PIA Training Center was also looking at the possibilities of self financed degree programs in AMET and Aerospace, but the idea never materialized.

Pakistan has a sizeable number of Aerospace/ Avionics Engineers specializing from USA and other countries, yet so many of them left Pakistan as well at one juncture or other of their career.

I think at this stage our economy and market does not support aviation production in private sector.

[mkamal]

I believe Faisal asked about institute(s) offering the following:

Private institute that offers a two years (A.A/A.S) or four years degree (B.A. or B.S) in the following disciplines:

- Aviation Management
- Aircraft Maintenance
- Technical Management
- Aerospace Engineering (hmm, may someone offers it in Pakistan??)
- Air Traffic Management
- Aeronautical Science / Systems Maintenance.
- etc, etc....

Apart from Aircraft Maintenance and Air Traffic Controller course, I don't think anybody offers what he is asking for. Even PIA Training Centre hasn't reached the stage of Aviation Management, Technical Management, Aerospace Engineering, Air Traffic Management or Aeonautical Science level. They are only doing what is sufficient for PIA and some other local airlines.

Most of the education imparted in Pakistani institutes including PIA and PAF is based on precis made by good old Master Warrant Officers in 1950's and 60's or Education Branch Officers once upon a time. We have not yet been able to inculcate the state-of-art education philosophy in these organizations. Barring PAF-CAE, no other institution has advanced from the pre-historic level.

No doubt we could generate good technicians and mechanics, but aviation managers and scientists coming out of ATS and PTC????.....so help us God!

[Ashar]

Check out the CATI institute in Hyderabad for more information. Their link is available from the CAA Pakistan website.
It is such a good place for aviation learning but it is not being utilized to its potential at all. If a good business plan is written for CATI and implemented with the help of the government/private sector, it can do marvels as it has al the infrastructure as well as the support structure to be on of th eleading aviation schools in South Asia / Middle East.

[mkamal]

CATI is a very good institution like so many other in the country. The dilemma of Pakistani Govt . organization is a lack of direction and proper guidance. The inner feeling that an organization should have to excel in the region or the world is not an organizational value in any one of them. This lack of vision is driving all theses organizations (PTC, CATI etc.) in an unknown direction.

Mostly, the non-professional management run these organization like a govt. department with a clarical mentality. Talking of business plan my dear, they can spend a huge sum of money on that and would love to make TA/DA on related foreign visits but WHO will implement it?

[Bluemax]

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Assalam o Aliakum ,
There is a institute in Karachi just opposite to “white body hanger” name as Aviation technical services” duly approved by civil aviation Pakistan. They offer Aircraft Maintenance engineering course. (AME –LWTR).

Correction "WIDE BODY HANGER" also known as "ISPHAHANI HANGER"